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In SideReel’s new TV commentary webseries, Idiot Box, TV addicts Sungmi and Kyle duke out which new fairy tale series this season is the best: ABC’s soapy drama Once Upon a Time starring Jennifer Morrison and Ginnifer Goodwin, or NBC’s crime series, Grimm starring David Giuntoli and Russell Hornsby. Which fairy tale series has keep you tuned in so far this TV season? See what Sungmi and Kyle have to say and weigh in in the comments!

Sungmi: Welcome to Idiot Box. I’m Sungmi Choi.

Kyle: I’m Kyle McNally.

Kyle: We’re discussing, uh, the two new network shows that involve fairy tales. Um, one of which is Grimm, it’s on NBC. It features, you know, a police detective who sort of encounteres a magical world in Portland, Oregon, and the other is Once Upon a Time on ABC. It follows Snow White being brought to the real world and having no recollection of her fairy tale life.

Sungmi: Which is your pick?

Kyle: No, which is your pick? I wanna hear from you first.

Sungmi: Okay, well my pick, you’re gonna know which it is – it’s Once Upon a Time, the soap-ier, obviously. I just think it’s more interesting right now. Grimm just hasn’t caught me yet, whereas Once Upon a Time has already got me sucked in.

Kyle: But you admit to watching both.

Sungmi: I admit to watching both, I mean, let’s be honest, both are not perfect shows.

Kyle: Right, I agree. completely agree. I think Once Upon a Time lacks, sort of, a drive. I don’t… I feel like I already know what’s going to happen, like, they’re not going to have amnesia anymore, and then the show’s over for me. I mean, and, the fact that they’re sort of tying the show so closely to the source material means that they really are like locking themselves into the story plot…

Sungmi: I don’t know, I still feel like anything could happen, I still feel like something else could happen. I feel like there’s room for that…

Kyle: No, but you can’t. I mean, Snow White can’t end up with anyone but Prince Charming, like you know…

Sungmi: It’s a reinvention…

Kyle: The queen is going to die in some horrific way probably…

Sungmi: The thing is I feel like it’s gotten me invested in the relationships and the characters, where as Grimm right now, I just can’t care about anybody.

Kyle: Yeah, but Grimm has the room to grow. It really has… it started, I would say, maybe not as strong as it needed to…

Sungmi: Is the lead gonna get smarter? Is the sidekick gonna get funnier?

Kyle: Well hopefully!

Sungmi: That’s where I want the growth to happen.

Kyle: Well, I mean, and those things can happen. I would say that the show has the potential to really grow an audience and sort of a following because it’s not locked into fairy tales. It’s basically…

Sungmi: I see what you’re saying, I just don’t care about this guy yet…

Kyle: it’s basically inspired by fairy tales instead of being beholden to them.

Sungmi: I just feel like the main character, he just doesn’t seem like bright enough. He has this entire trailer of stuff and he’s like…

Kyle: I know but like, he’s.. it’s genetic, it’s genetic. He’s a Grimm by genes, so like, the smartest people can’t always be, like, the heroes. He screws up a little.

Sungmi: He is, he is real handsome. He’s real handsome. I give you that.

Kyle: Right, so maybe there’s…

Sungmi: He is nice to look at.

Kyle: Maybe the Grimms didn’t go off, you know, wits. You know…

Sungmi: Maybe that’s why they have those…

Kyle: Survival of the fittest? No, survival of the prettiest. But, I mean, I still that he that he really has, sort of like, a strong… I don’t know, there’s something about him and his journey with the audience…

Sungmi: I think what you like about it is the long shots of him looking thoughtful. That’s what you like about him…

Kyle: Oh yeah? Oh yeah, we’re going to go back to this now?

Sungmi: I think that’s what you like. And that’s fine, that’s fair. I like those shots too.

Kyle: I mean, I can say the same thing for Once Upon a Time. You just wanna see Prince Charming in a coma.

Sungmi: He’s out of the coma now, for the record.

Kyle: Yeah, like stumbling around. Um, I mean, I think I just find that Grimm has a potential to grow in a way that Once Upon a Time is locked in.

Sungmi: You know, I hope it lives up to this potential, but for now I’m just not seeing it. Um, let us know which you’re tuning into. We’re curious because obviously, I’m right and Kyle’s wrong as always! But let us know in the comments below and on Facebook and catch up on SideReel!

Comment List

  • Black Lit. Black Hist. 06 / 02 / 2012 Reply

    I thought I would like Once Upon a Time better, but now I like Grimm better. Grimm gets better on every episode. Grimm is growing because the protagonist is growing into his Grimm being.

  • coolpizza16 30 / 04 / 2012 Reply

    I watch both shows. I really them.

  • FredXWeasleyXForever 12 / 05 / 2012 Reply

    Grimm for sure, I tried watching Once upon a time, I caught up on Grimm via On-demand, I watched 14 episodes in two days. Yeah Grimm is FAR better than that cheesy already made four unoriginal ideas of Snow white garbage. Grimm is unique, original and just plain AWESOME!

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  • Feckless Vicuña 10 / 08 / 2012 Reply

    I love once upon a time season finale the best my idols ginni g and Jenny m

  • Macy 21 / 08 / 2012 Reply

    Grimm for sure. It's way darker, has interesting characters that AREN'T perfect (I'm not saying that Once Upon A Time isn't fleshed out), awesome story lines. Seriously though, it's pretty freaking awesome, second on my fav shows list.
    First will always be Supernatural. 😀
    And plus, the pilot episode of Grimm ends seriously badass with a Marilyn Manson song. How much cooler can you get?

  • selenagomez4ever813 25 / 08 / 2012 Reply

    As much as I love Once Upton A Time, Grimm has a bit more suspense and have you seen Nick? LOL.

  • elanor2006 04 / 09 / 2012 Reply

    Once Upon a Time ofcourse! I haven't liked a show this much since Charmed! Grimm is just not my cup pf tea, but i have a feeling that girls will like OUAT more while guys will prefer Grimm(but it's just my opinion) 🙂

  • Nathan Schade 03 / 10 / 2012 Reply

    I watch both but Grimm is first for me

  • Loki Cosplay on Asgard 23 / 10 / 2012 Reply

    Once Upon A Time TO THE MAX!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MaherZain3423 07 / 11 / 2012 Reply

    Grimm all the way

  • Alexfolledemoi 09 / 11 / 2012 Reply

    BOTHHHH ! why do we have always have to choose ??

  • kag116 02 / 04 / 2013 Reply

    Tried both. Couldn't get through the first episode of Grimm. Once is my life though!!!!

  • Felix Crespo 16 / 06 / 2013 Reply

    ONCE APON A TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Felix Crespo 16 / 06 / 2013 Reply

    What's going to happen to wood guy

  • Endtimesarehere11 21 / 08 / 2013 Reply

    I loove charmed!!! It is actually my number one series of all time. Though i always wondered if it was more popular among guys, girls or both. It was an awesome series that i believe both genders can get into.

  • Queen Jackie 12 / 11 / 2014 Reply

    Once upon a time

  • Star Wars Nerd 05 / 04 / 2015 Reply

    Once Upon a Time watch the new episodes (season 4)

  • Will Lyon 09 / 11 / 2016 Reply

    I like Grimm better than OUAT, and it's has way much better writing, likable characters, better CGI graffics, reffernces to obsucre fairy tales and lesser known creatures from folklore. And thank God I stopted watching OUAT.

  • Natasha Carpenter 04 / 01 / 2018 Reply

    grilled once and Grimm both great

  • Natasha Carpenter 04 / 01 / 2018 Reply


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